Comnments on Phillies Nation 2007 List of Top 100 Phillies of All Time

Phils Whiz Kid Stan "Stash" Lopata.  Don't Know what he was Stashing, but he was great defensively, & he hit the Long Ball.

Comments on the Phillies Nation List of Top 100 Phillies 2007 & 2014 - the 2014 List not Done Yet Phillies Nation List of Top 100 Phillies of All Time					Comments
Rank	Phils Player		(2008 edition)
1	Mike Schmidt				Natch
2	Steve Carlton				Roberts should be ahead of Carlton.				Higher Peak Value & Higher Career WAR.
3	Robin Roberts								Carlton has a higher JAWS, but Roberts has a higher JAWS7,
4	Ed Delahanty								Meaning Roberts peak 7 seasons were better than Carltons.
5	Pete Alexander				Alexander's Career WAR is 117.  If he had spent his entire career with the Phils, he'd be #1, easily.
6	Richie Ashburn				Utley climbed higher after 2008.
7	Dick Allen				Allen should be lower, though his peak seasons were very fine.
8	Chuck Klein				Utley, Abreu & Rollins are all ahead of Klein now.
9	Sam Thompson				goes lower.  He played in the 1890, 7 run a game baseball.  His Phillies WAR was @ 30.  Ennis was better
10	Bobby Abreu				Abreu is the real deal but Rollins will pass him in the next two years.
11	Sherry Magee				Sherwood "Sherry" Magee is actually a top ten Phillie
12	Curt Schilling				Schilling  had @ 81 career WAR so if the Phils don't trade him, he's #2 on the all-time list.  Bad Trade.
13	Billy Hamilton				Roy Thomas, a U Penn grad, was actually a better leadoff man than Billy Hamilton.
14	Jim Bunning				Cole Hamels has passed Jim Bunning and Chris Short on this list, & will pass Curt Schilling
15	Cy Williams				He played in the 1920s when runs were cheap--good but not top 20.
16	Del Ennis				Del Ennis has always been underrated.  He was very, very good.
17	Greg Luzinski				Greg Luzinski is not this good at all.  He and Ryan Howard are grossly overrated.
18	Gavvy Cravath				Close but has been passed by Rollins, Utley & Hamels.
19	Jimmy Rollins				Rollins has moved up a lot since 2008.
20	Johnny Callison				Johnny Callison is one of the greatest Phillies ever, and also grossly underrated.
21	Chris Short				close but goes a bit higher
22	Pat Burrell				his defense puts him much lower than this
23	Tug McGraw				hard to evaluate bullpen guys. His actualy career WAR for Philly is 9.7, so he could rank around 95th.  He did have a WAR of 4.7 in 1980, so his single season impact was immense that year.
24	Chase Utley				Obviously one of the greats alltime.
25	Ryan Howard				Has declined sharply since 2008, his defense is bad.
26	Garry Maddox				Secretary of Defense.
27	Curt Simmons				42.7 career WAR if the Phils don't trade him he's top ten on the all time list.
28	Scott Rolen				70 career WAR #2 to Schmidt on this list if the Phils don't stupidly trade him.  Horrible trade.
29	Juan Samuel				career phils WAR was 13; does not belong on top 100 Phillies list.
30	Fred Luderus				deadball era slugger but does not rank this high.
31	Larry Bowa
32	Bob Boone				12.9 WAR as a phil, but 32.4 WAR career.  Trading him was a huge mistake.  Ranks around 85th on this list, but he doesn't really belong because his best years were for the Angels.
32	John Kruk				.400 career OBA with a high slugging average.  To date, generated more WAR in five seasons than Howard or Luzinski in many more.
34	Von Hayes				Ranks higher.  Good defender, good speed, hit, hit for power, walked a lot, doubles machine.
35	Lenny Dykstra				Had an 8.9 WAR in 1990 & 6.5 in 1993.  Ferocious will to win.  4 HR in 1993 World Series. Ranks higher.
36	Nap Lajoie				Nap Lajoie had 107 career WAR had he not jumped to the As would be #1 on this list
37	Darren Daulton				just about right for Dutch
38	Manny Trillo				6.8 WAR in 4 seasons for the Phils does not get him on the top 100 with guys like Utley or Rollins.
39	Mike Lieberthal				yes but not this high
40	Cole Hamels				Has risen considerably since 2008; will end up as a top ten on this list.
41	Jack Taylor				good early pitcher but goes lower.  Cliff Lee continues to rise up the list.
42	Dolph Camilli				12.9 WAR for Phils in 4 seasons, 42 plus WAR career + MVP would have made top ten on this list.  He's only 85th on his list, but top ten if he's not traded to the Dodgers.  One of the worst trades every for the Phillies.
43	Ron Reed				Effective reliever, like Ryan Madsen, but he's much lower than this.
44	Schoolboy Rowe				journeyman pitcher, ranks in bottom ten of top 100.
45	Dick Sisler				Dick Sisler hit a famous HR in 1950, but he's not among the top 100 Phils ever.
46	Eppa Rixey				Eppa Rixey had a career 56 plus WAR and would be 4th on this list if the Phils had not stupidly traded him away to the Reds.  He and Pete Alexander were the rocks of the 1915 pennant winning rotation.
47	Pinky Whitney				In the top 100 but does not belong this high.
48	Steve Bedrosian				4.2 WAR in four-five phils seasons, and he didn't deserve his Cy Young in 1987. Not a top 100 guy. Liked his beard, though.
49	Lefty O'Doul				12 WAR in only two seasons for the Phils.  He ranks either way lower or not at all.
50	Earl "Crossfire" Moore				just about right.
51	Tony Gonzalez				career 24.4 WAR with phils, actually ranks much higher.
52	Roy Thomas				career 36.5 WAR with phils, is 13th best overall.  Should be in HOF.  One of best leadoff men ever.
53	Larry Christenson				83 career wins but only 9.1 career WAR leaves him out of the top 100.  Avg pitcher for a great team.
54	Pete Rose				net 1.2 WAR in five seasons with Phils.  He helped Schmidt become great, but he doesn't belong.
55	Terry Mulholland				he's in the low 80s on our list.
56	Andy Seminick				about right.  Roy Halladay in two effective seasons was just as good as many season of Andy Seminick.
57	Johnny Moore				8.0 WAR in 4 seasons with Phils in 1930s doesn't make the top 100
58	Randy Wolf				top 100 but around 85th.
59	Willie Montanez				3.6 WAR in 5 seasons doesn't make top 100.  trading him for Garry Maddox was brilliant, though.
60	Ron Northey				8.6 WAR in 5 wartime seasons and part of a sixth in 1957 doesn't make the top 100.
61	John Denny				not far off.  Denny should be a few slots down.
62	Deron Johnson				wasn't on phils long enough to get on the top 100.
63	Lee Meadows				Who????
64	Eddie Waitkus				only 5.9 WAR in 5 and some seasons with Phils.  Doesn't make top 100.
65	Willie Jones				Willies Puddinhead Jones, on the other hand, had 24.3 WAR playing a key defensive position, and is 34th on this list; a very underrated member of the Whiz Kids, one of the better 3d basemen of the 1950s
66	John Titus				superb deadball player, 29th overall
67	Al Orth				Al Orth had 23.4 WAR just for Phils; the Curveless Wonder had career WAR 44.1 so he's top 10 if he doesn't jump to AL in 1902
68	Dick Ruthven				7.7 overall WAR in several seasons with Phils, but only one really decent season, 1980.  not top 100.
69	George Wood				4.5 WAR in 4 seasons, not top 100.  Charlie Ferguson would have been a better choice.
70	Bob Miller				#100 but Dom Brown or someone else will knock him off this list eventually.
71	Jim Konstanty				tied for #100.
72	Jimmy Ring				we have him just ahead of Spud Davis at #59.
73	Dutch Leonard				close, 12.9 WAR for phils puts him at #85.
74	Ryan Madsen				Mad Dog's 8.9 WAR in his years with the Phils, and his steady work from 2007-11 deserve consideration for the top 100, even if his WAR is a couple of points below the line.  He was great.
75	Jay Johnstone				In 1976 the platoon of Downtown Ollie Brown and Jay Johnstone had a WAR of 4.9.  Johnstone alone had a WAR of 9.0 in his 5 seasons with the Phils.  That doesn't  make the top 100, but he and Brown are still my favorite Phillies ever.
76	Bake McBride				12.2 WAR for Phils in 5 seasons, career 22.6 WAR, great glove & great baserunner. Shake n' Bake should be #86 on our list.
77	Freddy Leach
78	Tully Sparks				goes much higher on the list.
79	Jim Thome
80	Brett Myers
81	Jim Lonborg
82	Rick Wise
83	Hans Lobert
84	Dave Cash
85	Hal Carlson
86	Clay Dalrymple
87	Tony Taylor
88	Tommy Greene
88	Greg Gross
90	Kent Tekulve
91	Dave Hollins
92	Jamie Moyer
93	Mitch Williams
94	Granny Hamner
95	Phil Collins
96	Chick Fraser
97	Jose Mesa
98	Ricky Bottalico
99	Kid Gleason
100	Randy Lerch
						Phillies Nation Top 100 Phillies of All Time				(2014 edition)
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						45	Fred Luderus
						46	Mike Lieberthal
						47	John Kruk
						48	Carlos Chooch Ruiz
						49	Stan Lopata
						50	Andy Seminick
						51	Dode Paskert
						52	Nap Lajoie
						53	Jayson Werth
						54	Pete Rose
						55	Larry Bowa
						56	Jim Fogarty
						57	Pat Burrell
						58	Terry Mulholland
						59	Dick Ruthven
						60	Placido Polanco
						61	Bob Boone
						62	Charlie Buffinton
						63	Brad Lidge
						64	Granny Hamner
						65	Kid Carsey
						66	Tug McGraw
						67	Charlie Ferguson
						68	Clay Dalrymple
						69	Mickey Doolin
						70	Randy Wolfpack Wolf
						71	Tully Sparks
						72	Dave Bancroft
						73	Gus Weyhing
						74	Spud Davis
						75	Ray Benge
						76	Tony Taylor
						77	John Titus
						78	Lee Meadows
						79	Jamie Moyer
						80	Schoolboy Rowe
						81	Jim Thome
						82	Lave Cross
						83	Dolph Camilli
						84	Don Hurst
						85	Woody Fryman
						86	Pinky Whitney
						87	Bake McBride
						88	John Denny
						89	Kid Gleason
						90	Otto Knabe
						91	Lefty O'Doul
						92	Larry Jackson
						93	Jim Lonborg
						94	Billy Wagner
						95	Juan Samuel
						96	Ron Reed
						97	Ryan Madsen
						98	Brett Myers
						99	Antonio Bastardo