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Sunday, July 14, 2013

FRED SHERO ELECTED TO THE HOCKEY HALL OF FAME

FRED SHERO TO THE NHL HOCKEY HALL OF FAME

FRED SHERO CARRIES ONE OF TWO STANLEY CUPS HE COACHED THE PHILADELPHIA FLYERS TO IN 1973-74 AND 1974-75.  NOT JUST THE GREATEST COACH IN FLYERS HISTORY, BUT THE GREATEST COACH IN NHL HISTORY.  HE WON TWO STANLEY CUPS WITH AN EXPANSION TEAM, THE FIRST AGAINST BOBBY ORR & THE BOSTON BRUINS ONE OF THE BEST TEAMS IN NHL HISTORY.  HE WAS A GENIUS.

Frederick Alexander Shero, known by all Philadelphia Hockey fans as "Freddie the Fog" Shero, has been elected to the National Hockey League Hall of Fame.

HALL OF FAMER FRED SHERO WITH HALL OF FAMERS BOBBY CLARKE AND BILL BARBER OF THE STANLEY CUP WINNING PHILADELPHIA FLYERS CIRCA 1975.  2/3 OF THE FAMED "LCB" LINE OF REGGIE LEACH, CLARKE AND BARBER.  

Fred Shero's story is legendary.  He came to the Flyers after the 1971 season.  The Flyers were an expansion team.  They had come into existence in the mid to late 1960s, but the deck was stacked against them and the rest of the expansion teams--one division was dominated by the "old six" of Montreal, Boston, Toronto, Detroit, New York and Chicago, while the other division was entirely expansion teams.  

Every year, the Stanley Cup finals were a joke, as the winner of the playoffs in the "old six" division slaughtered the winner of the "expansion" division, usually in four straight games.  

The NHL was a conservative, stuffed shirt league, that did not want any American cities to win, and did not want any expansion teams to win.  The placed every conceivable obstacle in the way of the expansion teams.  One of the teams, the Oakland/California Seals, actually failed completely, and declared bankruptcy and went completely out of business in less than ten years, and the St. Louis Blues have yet to win a Stanley Cup in their entire existence.  

Others of the original six expansion teams have moved around--the Minnesota North Stars to Dallas.  Only the Los Angeles Kings, Pittsburgh Penguins, Philadelphia Flyers and St. Louis Blues have remained in the same cities since 1967-68, when they first began play.  

Of these teams, the Los Angeles Kings only won their first Stanley Cup two years ago.  At one point, the Kings signed Wayne Gretzky, the greatest star in hockey, but it did not help them.  The Kings got some attendance boost with that, but they never got popular until Mike Richards, Jeff Carter and Simon Gagne arrived from the Philadelphia Flyers--three players who had guided the Flyers to a Finals berth in 2009-10--and who Flyers GM Paul Holmgren foolishly let go the following season--that the Kings were able to capture the Stanley Cup in  2011-12.  Now NHL hockey is very popular in Los Angeles, at long last, especially given the struggles of the Lakers, and the unpopularity of the Lakers major stars like Dwight Howard and the sulky, unpredictable and moody Kobe Bryant, who never seems happy.  

The Blues have never won a Stanley Cup, but they have a stable organization and good attendance.

The Penguins, under Mario Lemieux, were able to capture several Stanley Cups, but they have suffered from severe attendance and economic problems, and they were forced to undergo Chapter Eleven and bankruptcy re-organization.

The Philadelphia Flyers, on the other hand, were led to the promised land of the Stanley Cup first, of all the expansion teams, by their incredible coach, FRED SHERO, in just their seventh year of existence, 1973-74, and in just Shero's third year of coaching the Flyers.  

Freddie Shero Coaching the Flyers.  He was the first to use an assistant coach; the first to study the Russian system; the first to study game film; the first to use a defensive system.

In the finals, they defeated the Boston Bruins and the incredible, unbelievable Bobby Orr, who played with Phil Esposito.  Bobby Orr was that year, and any year, the greatest player ever to lace on hockey skates.  Phil Esposito was one of the greatest players ever to skate on NHL ice.  

And yet, the Flyers, facing unbelievable odds, defeated the Bruins in a miraculous upset, due to their brilliant coach, Fred Shero. 

TWO MILLION PEOPLE ATTENDED THEIR VICTORY PARADE IN DOWNTOWN PHILADELPHIA--the greatest celebration ever in Philadelphia sports history.  And immediately, the Flyers became the most popular sports team in Philly.  

1973-74 STANLEY CUP CHAMPION FLYERS
HALL OF FAME COACH: FRED SHERO


Then, they won FIFTY GAMES the next year and won another Stanley Cup!  

The Flyers weren't like other athletes.  They went to the local bars and drank beers with the regular fans.  They signed autographs and lives in the neighborhoods with the regular folks.  They were not just loved--they were adored by the fans.  

The following year, they defeated the Soviet Red Army team, considered the greatest in the world.  Everyone in America was proud to be a Flyers fan that day.  

They won fifty games three straight seasons, and got to the NHL finals again, a third straight season, where they were finally stopped by the Montreal Canadiens, and an incredibly hot goalie, Ken Dryden, who would go on to a tremendous career of playoff hockey fame.  



Fred Shero - Genius and Coaching Pioneer

Fred Shero was the first NHL coach to hire an assistant coach, Mike Nykoluk.  

Fred Shero was the first NHL coach to study game film, and analyze it routinely in preparation for games.

Fred Shero was the first NHL coach to travel to Russia, and study the Russian Army and Russian methods of playing world hockey; he pioneered the globalization of hockey which has now transformed the game.  

Fred Shero was the first NHL coach to use systems of defense, in which a team worked together as a unit to slow down more talented players and prevent them from scoring.  These would become standard in future years, but when Shero first utilized them with the Flyers, they were utterly unknown.  

Fred Shero was the first NHL coach to have his players weight train in the off-season to get stronger and faster.  

Fred Shero was the first NHL coach to have his players use a "morning skate" to prepare for afternoon or evening games or practices.  

Fred Shero was an innovator who introduced to the National Hockey League not one or two, but many of the coaching methods and practices which all NHL teams and coaches now take for granted.



It was in this way, and in this way only, that he was able to take the Philadelphia Flyers from a laughing stock to the pinnacle of hockey in just three short seasons, and keep them there.

The Measure of Success is Success

The Philadelphia Flyers are the most successful NHL team.  The only NHL franchise with a higher winning percentage than the Flyers overall .578 winning percentage from 1968-2013 is the Montreal Canadiens, which are an original six team, and have from 1918-2013 an overall .589 winning percentage.

But this is to say, essentially, that the Flyers are nearly as good as the most legendary franchise in all of hockey.  The Flyers have a higher winning percentage than the New York Rangers, the Boston Bruins, the Toronto Maple Leafs, the Chicago Blackhawks, and the Detroit Red Wings.  

The Flyers have a higher winning percentage than any other expansion team.

Only Montreal, the New York Yankees, as it were, of NHL Hockey, are slightly better than the Flyers.  

The Flyers have been in the playoffs 36 times from 1968-2013, 36 out of 45 season.   That's 80% of the time.  Montreal has been in the playoffs 80 times out of 95 years, for a success rate of 84%, but no other team is even remotely close.   Even the lofty Boston Bruins, who have appeared in the playoffs 68 of their 88 seasons, from 1925-2013, have only a playoff appearance rate of 77%.

The Flyers have won 16 Division championships in their 45 years of play.  While the Bruins, Red Wings and Canadiens have more Division Championships, they have all played roughly twice as many years.   The Canadiens have 35 Division championships in 95 years which is a 37% success rate.  The Flyers have won 16 Division championships in 45 years, which is a 36% success rate--that's just about the same.  The Bruins and Red Wings are not close in terms of percentages--The Red Wings have won 29 Division Titles in 86 years, for a 33% winning rate, while the Bruins have won 27 Division Titles in 88 years for a 31% winning rate.  

That makes the Flyers, again, a better and more winning organization than any other team in the NHL except for perhaps Montreal.  The Flyers have won 4 conference championships, two championships, two Stanley Cups, and have been to the Stanley Cup Finals six times, finishing runner up, appearing in the Finals in the 1970s, the 1980s, the 1990s, and the 2000s.  They have appeared in the Stanley Cup Finals in every decade of their existence except for their initial three years in the league from 1968-70, and the current decade, which still has seven seasons to run.  

That is a mightily impressive legacy--the legacy of FRED SHERO.

HALL OF FAMER.  

"WIN TODAY AND WE WILL TOGETHER FOREVER"

written on the blackboard before Game Six of the Stanley Cup Finals, Spring 1974, before the Flyers went out and defeated the Bruins 1-0, and won their first Stanley Cup. 

References

NHL Hockey HOF Page on Fred Shero from last reference, supra:


Although he played in the National Hockey League, Fred Shero's legacy remains largely due to his highly successful NHL coaching career. Unanimously loved by his players, 'Freddy the Fog' was renowned for exhibiting his philosophies on the chalkboards of his team's dressing room. Before Game Six of the 1974 Stanley Cup Final that featured his Philadelphia Flyers, Shero wrote, 'Win today and we walk together forever,' a quote that has endured in dressing rooms across North America through the decades since it was first written.
Shero was the inaugural winner of the Jack Adams Award as the NHL's top coach in 1974.
Shero was the inaugural winner of the Jack Adams Award as the NHL's top coach in 1974.
Born in Winnipeg, Manitoba on October 23, 1925, Fred Shero worked his way through the hockey system before debuting with the New York Rangers in 1947-48. Through three NHL seasons, Shero played 145 games, scoring 6 goals and adding 20 assists for 26 points. In 13 playoff games, Fred collected two points.
Shero's professional career continued at the minor league level until 1957-58. He turned to coaching in 1955-59, joining the Moose Jaw Canucks of the Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League.
Shero led the Philadelphia Flyers to back-to-back Stanley Cup championships in 1974 and 1975.
Shero led the Philadelphia Flyers to back-to-back Stanley Cup championships in 1974 and 1975.
In 1958-59, Shero was hired to coach the St. Paul Saints of the International Hockey League, and in his first two season with the Saints, he led St. Paul to the Turner Cup as IHL champions.
By 1967-68, Fred had joined the Buffalo Bisons of the American Hockey League, and coached that team to a Calder Cup championship in 1969-70. He was rewarded with the Louis A.R. Pieri Memorial Award as the AHL's coach of the year. The next year, Shero was behind the bench for the Omaha Knights of the Central Hockey League, and won the Adams Cup championship with that team. For a second consecutive year, Fred was named coach of the year, this time winning the Jake Milford Trophy.
After two straight championships with two different teams in two different leagues, Fred Shero was ready for 'The Show.' He was hired by the Philadelphia Flyers in 1971-72, beginning a nine-season NHL coaching career. Although the Flyers missed the playoffs in his first season, they went to the second round in 1972-73. But Shero's motivational coaching produced dividends in 1973-74. The 'Broad Street Bullies' won the Stanley Cup, and Shero was presented with the Jack Adams Trophy as coach of the year. The Flyers repeated as Stanley Cup champions in 1974-75. They almost made it a three-peat in 1975-76, reaching the Final but losing to the Montreal Canadiens.
Shero coached the Campbell Conference All-Star team on four occasions from 1975 to 1978.
During his seven seasons in Philadelphia, Fred and the Flyers enjoyed four consecutive Campbell Bowl wins with Philadelphia as regular season winners of the West Division (1973-74) and Campbell Conference (1974-75 to 1976-77). During that period, Shero coached the Flyers in 554 regular season games, winning 308, losing 151 and tying 95 more for a winning percentage of .642. In 83 playoff games, Fred led the Flyers to 48 wins and 35 losses for a .578 winning percentage. He is one of only six NHL coaches to lead his club to consecutive 50+ win seasons, a feat accomplished from 1973-74 to 1975-76. During his high-profile days with the Flyers, Fred was rewarded by being named the NHL All-Star coach of the Campbell Conference team in 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978.
In 1978-79, Shero was hired to coach the New York Rangers. In his first season, he took the Rangers to the Stanley Cup Final, although they, too, lost to the powerful Montreal Canadiens. In two seasons with New York, Shero coached the Rangers in 180 regular season games, compiling a record of 82 wins, 74 losses and 24 ties for a winning percentage of .522. He also coached the Rangers in 27 playoff games, winning 15 and losing 12 for a .556 winning percentage.
In 1980, Fred was rewarded with the Lester Patrick Trophy for his contributions to hockey in the United States. The Philadelphia Flyers inducted Shero into their Hall of Fame in 1990. 
id.  

From another source:

Fred Shero is perhaps the most innovative head coach to stand behind an NHL bench. As we've written in the past...
He was the first North American coach to actually study and learn from the Soviets, which certainly helped when his Flyers beat them in 1976. He was one of the first coaches to use film to study opponents, and he was the first coach to utilize the help of assistants. He'd be inducted in the Builders category if he were to ever make the Hall, and it's hard to argue that Shero isn't one of the more innovative builders hockey has ever seen.
Think about it: The 1980 USA Olympic win happened in part because Herb Brooks took what Shero first did in 1976 and stepped it up a notch, beating the Soviets at their own game. Since Shero first brought assistant coaches behind the bench, it's become commonplace at every level of hockey across the world.
He didn't just win the Stanley Cup twice. He did it using methods that nobody else had ever tried. And think about the teams he won with. He was given a roster by management spotted with tough guys at the mandate of Ed Snider, and while he certainly utilized that toughness in a way that infuriated the rest of the league, he also molded those teams into scoring machines. Dave Schultz had 348 penalty minutes and 20 goals in 1973-74. That doesn't happen without great coaching, and the Flyers dont win those Cups in the 70s without great coaching.
Shero was a true innovator and he literally changed the face of ice hockey, and this day is a long time coming for both him and the Flyers organization. Really, it's a joke that it took this long. Shero passed away 23 years ago, and he should have been alive to see this. It took far too long. He'll be inducted on November 11 along with Canadian women's defenseman Geraldine Heaney, Chris CheliosScott Niedermayer and Brendan Shanahan, all entering the Hall in the players category.
And a shout-out to the great CHRIS CHELIOS.  We only wish he'd been a Philadelphia Flyer, but he is undoubtedly the toughest, greatest Greek-America athelete of all time.   And yes, he was BORN IN CHICAGO, in 19 and sixty-two.    aka Christos Kostas Tselios.
IF GREEKS COULD FLY, THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE CHRIS CHELIOS ON THE ICE WITH THE BLACKHAWKS BACK IN THE DAY.  HOFer.



Saturday, June 29, 2013

Getting Inside the Jrue Holiday Trade by the Sixers

GETTING BEHIND AND INSIDE THE JRUE HOLIDAY TRADE FOR NERLENS NOEL - THE STATS BEHIND IT

NERLENS NOEL IS ONE OF THE TOP DEFENSIVE PLAYERS EVER TO PLAY COLLEGE HOOPS - HE IS A REBOUNDING, SHOT-BLOCKING, DEFENSIVE MACHINE

Getting inside the numbers on this trade is not as hard as it might seem.

Some fans might think that Jrue Holiday was a pretty good player. After all, he was an NBA all-star.  However, the only categories he really was among the league leaders in was turnovers, in which he ranked 2d at 292 (that's very bad), FG attempts (10th), which means he was sort of like Iverson, and he ranked 3d overall in assists and 4th in Assists per Game (APG) with 8, which is pretty good.  That's his best stat.  

But when you sum it all up, Jrue Holiday is actually not a winning player.  His win shares have been in free fall for the last three years.  His win shares the past three seasons go 5.7, 4.2 and 3.3, which means he's been steadily declining, rather than improving.  His win shares per 48 minutes the prior two seasons, playing with Iguodala and Brand, were .094 and .092, whereas this past season he dropped off to .055.  

He has had one bright spot, and that is in the playoffs the season before, when the Sixers made their run in 2011-12, Holiday's win shares per 48 minutes were .148, which is an impressive number, and he played very well indeed as the Sixers beat the Bulls and took a very good Celtics team to seven games.  The other good point about Holiday is he plays a lot of minutes, and is quite durable.  He's among the top ten or fifteen in the league in minutes played and minutes per game played.  That's a good thing.

But he's a 6 foot 3 guard who ranks very low in effective field goal percentage, and has a poor turnover to assist ratio.  for an explanation of all this, we refer you to a sister site:


Quoting from this site:

Here is the public perception on Jrue Holiday: He's a playmaker. He can take control of a game. He holds a varied skill set. He's not Evan Turner. He quickly became the fan favorite in Philly, partially because any distraction from the Andrew Bynum Pro Bowling League was a welcome one.
However, those people clearly haven't looked at the numbers. Let's do a fun "Player A, Player B" breakdown. It's not particularly useful because you don't receive a larger context for a player, but man, it's so much fun when you can come up with comparisons like this.
Player A: .466 eFG%, 36.5 AST%, 17.3 TOV%, 99 ORtg, 107 DRtg
Player B: .493 eFG%, 32.2 AST%, 19.3 TOV%, 112 ORtg, 109 DRtg
Yeah, slightly more turnovers are a problem, but that extra 0.13 points per possession would sure be nice in Philadelphia when the offense sputters worse than a 1967 Oldsmobile. Oh, what's that? Player A is Jrue Holiday and Player B is Andre Miller, the now-37 year old point guard the Sixers pushed out four years ago in favor of young guys like Holiday and Lou Williams? Well then.
If that isn't enough for you, how about this context: according to stats.nba.com, among the 145 players that played at least 75 games last season, Holiday's .466 effective field goal percentage (eFG%) was 112th. His assist/turnover ratio, supposedly one of the best parts of his game, was only 31st behind such vaunted PGs as Kemba WalkerDarren Collison, andLuke Ridnour.
This was supposed to be Holiday's breakout All-Star season? Please.
So basically you have a good, not great point guard, who heaves the ball up a lot, and whose win shares are in free fall. 

Essentially, Jrue Holiday is like a bad version of Allen Iversion.  

Who doesn't score as much.  Most of Holiday's win share value is on the defensive end, but at six foot three, Holiday can't guard the taller players in the league.  His offensive win shares are low, and he is not an efficient point guard.  

On top of this, he was due for a salary bump to nearly $10 million a year the next three years.  Since he was only producing 3.3 win shares a year, that would be costing the Sixers nearly 3.3 million dollars a win.  That's expensive.  

Thaddeus Young, Dorrell Wright and Spencer Hawes all had more win shares last season than Jrue Holiday, with 7.4, 4.9 and 4.5 respectively.  Holiday's 3.3 was a distant fourth.  

In terms of win shares per 48 minutes, Holiday was even worst--his .055 win shares per 48 minutes was only 11th best on the Sixers, and one of the worst figures in the league.  The leaders on the Sixers were Arnett Moultrie, Thad Young and Dorrell Wright, all well over .130.  

Nerlens Noel

Now let's take a look at Nerlens Noel.  We only have one year of college data, but what amazing data it is.  

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/noelne01.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/nerlens-noel-1.html

Nerlens Noel averaged .209 win shares per 40 minutes played.  That .251 win shares per 48 minutes played.  This is the list of win share leaders per 48 minutes played in the NBA last year:

Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
1.LeBron James-MIA.322
2.Kevin Durant-OKC.291
3.Chris Paul-LAC.287
4.Tyson Chandler-NYK.207
5.Tony Parker-SAS.206
6.James Harden-HOU.206
7.Marc Gasol-MEM.197
8.Tiago Splitter-SAS.197
9.Blake Griffin-LAC.196
10.Russell Westbrook-OKC.195
11.Dwyane Wade-MIA.192
12.Tim Duncan-SAS.191
13.Brook Lopez-BRK.191
14.Carmelo Anthony-NYK.184
15.Deron Williams-BRK.184
16.Serge Ibaka-OKC.181
17.Stephen Curry-GSW.180
18.David West-IND.179
19.George Hill-IND.177
20.Chris Bosh-MIA.175

Even assuming that Nerlens Noel only plays at some percentage of his college capacity, he would be among the top 20 NBA players in terms of win shares per 48 minutes played.  If he played at the level he played in college in the NBA, he would be among the top five players in the NBA, 4th actually, right after Chris Paul.  It would be LeBron James, Keven Durant, Chris Paul, and then Nerlens Noel in terms of win shares per 48 minutes.  

Wow.  

That's what I said.  Wow.  

Nerlens Noel's PER rating last year was 27.3.  Wow.

His defensive rating relative to 100 was 81.3, while his offensive rating relative to 100 was 112.9.  He was 32 points better than average, taking into account his superior offensive skills and superior defensive skills.

A team of five Nerlens Noels would hold a team that normally scored 100 points to 81.3 every night.  While scoring 112.9.  Every night would be a cake walk. 

In just 24 games played, he accumulated 4 win shares.  An NBA season is 82 games.  That means that in an NBA season, he would have something like 13 win shares plus.  

These were the leaders in win shares in the NBA last year:

Win Shares
1.LeBron James-MIA19.3
2.Kevin Durant-OKC18.9
3.Chris Paul-LAC13.9
4.James Harden-HOU12.8
5.Russell Westbrook-OKC11.6
6.Marc Gasol-MEM11.5
7.Stephen Curry-GSW11.2
8.Kobe Bryant-LAL10.9
9.Deron Williams-BRK10.9
10.Blake Griffin-LAC10.6
11.Mike Conley-MEM9.9
12.George Hill-IND9.7
13.Dwyane Wade-MIA9.6
14.Carmelo Anthony-NYK9.5
15.Serge Ibaka-OKC9.4
16.Tony Parker-SAS9.3
17.Tyson Chandler-NYK9.3
18.David Lee-GSW9.1
19.David West-IND9.1
20.Paul George-IND9.0
Wow.  If Nerlens Noel even played at a fraction of his potential from college, he'd be among the top twenty players in the NBA in win shares.  Only LeBron James, Kevin Durant and Chris Paul would be better than Nerlens Noel.  

Some other numbers:  He rebounded nearly 10 boards per game, blocked 4.5 shots per game, had an effective FG% of .590, averaged 1.6 APG and even averaged 2.1 steals per game.  

The NBA leader in blocks per game last year, Serge Ibaka, averaged 3 blocks per game.  

The mind boggles at the possibilities.  

Noel utterly, totally dominated the SEC last year.  

Michael Carter-Williams

The 6 foot 6 point guard that was drafted #11 by the Sixers to replace Jrue Holiday has some fancy numbers also.

He was #2 in the NCAA last year in defensive win shares.

He led the NCAA last year in minutes played.  

He lead the NCAA last year in Assists.

Take at look for yourself:





Overall, from the numbers, it's pretty clear that Carter-Williams projects out to be a far better point guard both offensively and defensively than Jrue Holiday, at least from the stats.

And, of course, he is six foot six, and played in the Big East at Syracuse.  

Summing It All Up

You have to like this trade and this draft.  The Sixers end up dropping payroll.

The Sixers get younger.

The Sixers get better in the long run.  Not this coming year, but definitely in a couple of years.

They get a big man with huge upside potential, and not with attitude problems like Andrew Bynum.

They pick up a known quantity in Michael Carter-Williams who has two years of college ball under his belt who can play point guard and who led the nation in assists and defense at that position.  

And on top of this all, the Sixers picked up extra draft picks in the first and second rounds for next years draft, which is supposed to full of great college players, so the Sixers will have 4-5 picks in the top two rounds next year to re-stock the franchise.  

Right there, you feel as if the Sixers have already taken a huge step to undo the awful Andrew Bynum trade.

New Sixers GM Sam Hinkie has scored a slam dunk on draft night with this complex series of deals, and shown he understands modern basketball stats.  

Now if we can just get him to manage our stock portfolios....


Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Reinstate Pete Rose: Put Him in the HOF

REINSTATE PETE ROSE

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originally posted to DAVE PINTO'S "Baseball Musings" in 2004 at http://www.baseballmusings.com/archives/005910.php
My only emendations would be that Pete Rose NEVER took steroids, NEVER threw the World Series, NEVER doctored a baseball, and was by far the dominant player of his era.

PETE ROSE WAS THE GREATEST HITTER OF NOT JUST HIS ERA BUT ANY ERA.  IF YOU RECALCULATE HIS STATISTICS TO 2000 AND PUT HIM IN FENWAY PARK, HE WOULD HAVE HAD 200 HITS 18 CONSECUTIVE YEARS, WOULD HAVE HAD 5,000 CAREER HITS, WOULD HAVE HIT .394 IN 1968, .386 IN 1969 AND .386 IN 1973, 62 DOUBLES IN 1978, 174 RUNS SCORED IN 1976, 283 HITS IN 1973, CAREER LINE OF .341/.417/.460/.877 WITH 902 CAREER DOUBLES 5165 HITS 2912 RUNS 2900 RUNS CREATED IT IS A JOKE TO SAY DEREK JETER IS ANYTHING CLOSE TO PETE ROSE; PETE ROSE PLAYED IN A PITCHER'S ERA BUT PUT UP HITTER'S NUMBERS


Regarding Pete Rose and gambling. It is critical to put Pete Rose's gambling into perspective. Harold Seymour's three part series on the history of baseball which culminates in "The Golden Age,", and from which Bill James liberally borrows (with annotation) for many of his sidebars in the Historical Baseball Abstract and his Guide to Baseball Managers, makes it perfectly clear that a large number of famous, Hall of Fame baseball players gambled routinely and gambled on their own teams. Those players included Hal Chase, Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker, and may have included countless others who were bitter after salaries were reduced (1) after the American and National Leagues achieved peace in the early 1900s and (2) after the Federal League was disbanded and peace was achieved. As Eliot Asinof points out in Eight Men Out, even the eight men of the White Sox had ample reason for taking bets, because they were miserably underpaid by Charlie Comiskey, who according to Seymour, cleared in excess of $500,000 in profits from the Chisox during the 1910s during an era of no income tax or 1-3% income tax. He never shared that revenue and only spent about $25-40,000 of that on his players.

LIFT THE BAN!!!!!! REINSTATE PETE ROSE, CHARLIE HUSTLE! 



Next, let's talk about more recent players. Anyone read Ball Four by Jim Bouton? Mickey Mantle spent his whole career whoring and drinking and womanizing. Hall of Fame. Did anyone forget about beaver-shooting from that book??? The entire Yankee clubhouse from the early 60s, of which many are in the Hall of Fame, engaged in that despicable practice.Baseball players all played poker. All years of this century, they gambled on cards, they drank and they womanized. We know that cocaine was common in the Pittsburgh Pirate and KC Royals locker rooms even while they won World Series titles, and many of those players testified at drug trials in the 1980s. A lot of those players ended up in the hall of fame.

Babe Ruth. Traded from the Red Sox. Why? Because he had prostitutes everywhere on Kenmore Street, drank every night, gambled and ate too much. In short, he was dirty and stayed out all night in a small town Boston atmosphere. The same team allegedly dumped Tris Speaker for salary, but really wasn't it because he gamled on games in 1916???

Babe Ruth didn't win a series with the Yanks until 1923. He lost in 1921 and 22. He lost in 1926 to an alcoholic famous for being so drunk he never showed up to games. That man was Grover Clevelan "Pete" Alexander. That guy only won 373 games and made it to the Hall of Fame. Oh, and Ronald Reagan played him in a movie where he struck out Lazzeri with the bases loaded to win the 26 series.

So Rose is a gambling addict. Ruth was a sex and food addict. Alexander was an alcoholic. Cobb was a vicious racist who also gambled and purposely spiked people while playing. Eddie Collins & Joe Cronin were visious racists while running the Red Sox and preventing the integration of the Red Sox for more than 30 years, according to new research. The same racist Joe Cronin who was President of the the American League. Hal Chase's gambling kept the Yankees and other teams in the 2d division for all of the 1900s and 1910s and no one did anything about it. Doc Gooden and Daryl Strawberry were fed cocaine by Keith Hernandez in 1986, but no one every sent Hernandez to jail, much less banned him from baseball, even though he ruined two lives and two Hall of Fame careers.

Ty Cobb was a bastard jerk, but his accomplishments put him in the hall of fame. Pete Rose is a lot nicer guy than Ty Cobb; was never a racist; was a team player; and achieved his records in eras, the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s which were comparatively dominated by pitching, especially the first seven years of his career.

It is unfair to bar him from the Hall of Fame for having fallen into a moral abyss of late. A five or ten year suspension is more than enought punishment. He didn't throw the World Series, as Bill James correctly points out, which is what Joe Jackson allegedly did. He did what at least 200 other players did in baseball, including Ty Cobb, which is bet on baseball. Ty Cobb was called into a Commissioner's meeting in 1926, and he was not barred from baseball for throwing a game, even though there's plenty of evidence he threw that game and plenty more, along with Tris Speaker.

fair is fair. Reinstate the man. The Philly fans still love him and we want him back here to throw out as many baseballs as we can give him. He was an integral part of three World Series teams and six pennant or division winners. Unlike Cobb, he was a team player, a winner and a champion, and he loved his teammates no matter what their color. He never threw a game to give a batting champtionship or pennant to someone else, which Cobb allegedly did. He never threw a World Series, which Joe Jackson allegedly did.

His crimes pale in comparison. Justice as Aristotle says must be in accordance with the crime. The punishment in this case is far too great for the crime; Free Pete Rose!!!

--Arthur J Kyriazis
Biotech Consultant; biostatistician
Posted by: Art Kyriazis at April 29, 2004 04:03 PM

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Major League records:
Most career hits – 4,256
Most career outs – 10,328
Most career games played – 3,562
Most career at bats – 14,053
Most career singles – 3,215
Most career runs by a switch hitter – 2,165
Most career doubles by a switch hitter – 746
Most career walks by a switch hitter – 1,566
Most career total bases by a switch hitter – 5,752
Most seasons of 200 or more hits – 10
Most consecutive seasons of 100 or more hits – 23
Most consecutive seasons with 600 or more at bats – 13 (1968–1980)
Most seasons with 600 at bats – 17
Most seasons with 150 or more games played – 17
Most seasons with 100 or more games played – 23
Record for playing in the most winning games – 1,972
Only player in major league history to play more than 500 games at five different positions – 1B (939), LF (671), 3B (634), 2B (628), RF (595)

National League records:
Most years played – 24
Most consecutive years played – 24
Most career runs – 2,165
Most career doubles – 746
Most career games with 5 or more hits – 10
Modern (post-1900) record for longest consecutive game hitting streak – 44
Modern record for most consecutive hitting streaks of 20 or more games – 7


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Bill James defended Rose from the accusations in the Dowd Report.  There was a piece published on the Baseball Prospectus website refuting James' account at http://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/20021031zumsteg.shtml on October 31, 2002.  Although in the end Rose confesses to betting on baseball in his memoir, Rose does not anywhere confess to all of the charges made in the Dowd Report.  Even accepting all of the charges in the Dowd Report as true, a reasonable person would still have to argue for Rose's reinstatement, because his crimes are not nearly as great as those of others.

Just to take one more example, there is excellent evidence that DENNY MCLAIN was injured to to his involvement with gambling and mobsters towards the end of the 1967 season, and that his injured toe directly influenced the outcome of the 1967 pennant race--leading to the Tigers losing and the Red Sox winning.  According to the SABR bio of McClain, Bowie Kuhn and practically the whole world knew about McClain, but rather than being suspended from baseball, McLain was only suspended for half a season:

DENNY MCLAIN - HIS GAMBLING INFLUENCED THE OUTCOME OF THE 1967 PENNANT RACE BUT BASEBALL ONLY SUSPENDED HIM FOR ONE HALF OF ONE SEASON DESPITE CONCRETE EVIDENCE THAT GAMBLING AND RACKETEERING AND MCLAIN'S INVOLVEMENT IN THEM AFFECTED THE RACE - HE WAS LATER CONVICTED TWICE OF RACKETEERING RELATED FELONIES BUT WAS NEVER BANNED FROM BASEBALL - PETE ROSE WAS TREATED MUCH MORE SEVERELY

In February 1970, Sports Illustrated featured McLain on its cover next to the headline “Denny McLain and the Mob, Baseball’s Big Scandal.” The mob? According to the magazine, in early 1967 McLain invested in a bookmaking operation based in a restaurant in Flint, Michigan; several of his partners were part of the Syrian mob. When a gambler named Edward Voshen won $46,000 on a horse race, his bookie couldn’t pay it off, suggesting instead that Voshen find the bookie’s partners. One of his partners was McLain. Voshen spent several months trying to get his money, finally enlisting the aid of mobster Tony Giacalone. According to the magazine’s sources, Giacalone met with McLain in early September and, while threatening much worse, brought his heel down on McLain’s toes and dislocated them. This would have coincided with time of McLain’s ankle-toes injury in September 1967. The magazine also reported that Giacalone had bet heavily on the Red Sox and Twins to win the pennant, and had made a large bet on the Angels in McLain’s final start.
McLain denied most of the story. He admitted to investing in the bookmaking business to the tune of $15,000, but claimed that his partners reneged on him, causing McLain to withdraw his support. He told Bowie Kuhn, baseball’s commissioner, that he was completely uninvolved in the ring at the time of the Voshen bet, but oddly admitted that he had loaned $10,000 to one of the partners to help pay off the debt. Furthermore, he had never met Giacalone, and McLain retold the story of his toe injury. (In subsequent years, McLain recalled that it was an ankle sprain, not injured toes.) Just prior to spring training, Kuhn suspended McLain indefinitely while he conducted an investigation.
The problem with all of these accusations was that many of the people making them were criminals and lowlifes, as Sports Illustrated acknowledged. Although he has continued to deny the allegations regarding his injury, his denials have been in themselves damning. In his 2007 memoir I Told You I Wasn’t Perfect, he writes that he was heavily distracted in September 1967. “I was spooked about Ed Voshen and worried about being exposed,” he writes. “I kept expecting someone to tap me on the shoulder and say, ‘Hey, where’s my money?’ or that my car was going to blow up.” This fear is precisely why baseball has a paranoia about gambling.
If these problems were not enough, McLain was also suddenly broke. Though his annual income was close to $200,000, McLain had entrusted it all with a lawyer, who either mishandled it or stole it before fleeing to Japan. Without his baseball income, McLain’s financial problems caused him to file for bankruptcy. Claiming that all of his problems were due to “poor business decisions,” his petition listed debts of $446,069 and assets of only $413.
On April 1, 1970, Kuhn announced his decision. He continued McLain’s suspension until July 1, roughly half of the season. Kuhn’s report, among other things, said: “While McLain believed he had become a partner in this operation and has so admitted to me…it would appear that he was the victim of a confidence scheme. I would thus conclude that McLain was never a partner and had no proprietary interest in the bookmaking operation.” Kuhn also absolved McLain from any charges that his actions had any effect on baseball games or the 1967 pennant race. (On the contrary, McLain’s later recollection that he feared for his life in September 1967 suggests that the pennant race was quite affected.)
After Kuhn read his statement, a reporter asked him to explain the difference between McLain attempting to become a bookmaker, and actually becoming one. “I think you have to consider the difference is the same as between murder and attempted murder,” responded the wise commissioner. Reporters all over the country, and especially in Detroit, thought the decision was a whitewash. Denny’s teammates seemed surprised as well. Dick McAuliffe spoke for many when he said: “If Denny’s innocent, it should be nothing. If he’s guilty, then this is not enough.” Jim Price, the Tigers’ player representative, said that most Tigers thought McLain would get one or two years, or else nothing at all. Nonetheless, three months it was.

Denny McLain

This article was written by Mark Armour.